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Cant believe I just did that!!!

Posted on October 02 2022

Todays schedule didn't allow for fishing, (NDSU) volleyball game at 11:00 and the SU scrimmage at 5:00), so I decided to take time to answer questions between games  and perhaps lower Dennis' blood pressure. 

If you are wondering what the hell I'm talking about - - well I just copied and pasted a page I did almost two years ago on blind casting in answer to Chris and Jim N, question about blind casting. The feat was something of a miracle given my technological limitations.

 I've been blind casting for more than 65 years. When I started out in my Dad's hip boots cut off at the knees no one told me to just cast at rising fish. The only advice I ever remember getting was from a friend of my father, Roy Ryan who stood on the bank watching me and hollered "Never saw anyone yet catching a fish while he was waving the G-- D--- fly around in the air".  The advice sank in, anyone who has watched me fish knows I make very few false casts and the fly is ALWAYS on the water.

Blind casting (prospecting if you will) puts the fly in play. You will never catch a fish standing with your rod over your shoulder waiting for a rise.  Fish have to do three things, avoid predators, eat and reproduce.  If they don't know you are there and it's not spawning time you have a chance.

What exactly is blind casting?  It is casting your fly on water undisturbed by a rise in hopes of enticing a fish to eat it.  Just last year I was fishing with a Florida friend who could cast a fly fairly well and did hook and land several big river rainbows.  We were on the WB in the evening and the fish hadn't yet started to rise. He was blind casting per my instructions and was having no success. After I had hooked several fish he reeled in, walked over and said how come you're catching fish and I'm not.  Was never asked that question before and my answer surprised me. 

I told him he was just casting to the water (to which he agreed) while every cast I made was to a place I believed held a fish. Went on to tell him that I had fished there many times before and knew where the fish were most apt to be.  Also pointed out the type of water that was most likely to have fish.  He  shook his head and said he just wanted to watch.

So if you are thinking about "blind casting" what do you need to know to have a chance at success. Here is a list of things worth your consideration.

1- Start out in a place where you have seen fish rising and cast to those places, the fish are there and they will see your fly.

2- You never know when a fish will eat so you need to maintain good control of your line at all times so that setting the hook is not a problem.

3- When the cast starts to move faster than the bubbles pick it up, fish that aren't rising are spooked by a dragging fly just as much as the risers.

4- Fish seek a comfortable current level, if one fish comes to your fly, there are probably more in that area,  spend a little time there and cover the likely fish holding spots.

5- Fish want to be where they can get concentrations of food without expending a lot of energy, think seams where two currents come together.

6- Fish both edges of the obstructed water behind large rocks.

7- Fish faults in the stream bottom where fish can effortlessly lay and wait for the current to bring them food.

8- Throw at the bubble lines, food get concentrated there just like the bubbles and the fish know it.

Blind casting like everything else involves learning. You are not likely to hook ten fish the first time you try it.  But you will get satisfaction when you land the first one that wasn't rising and if you keep at it you will get better and hook more fish.

After all you are just doing what nymphers do without having to tie on a bobber.

In an effort to increase the odds of anyone trying the BR this fall, fish where a riff dumps into a slow run or pool. The places with the best likelihood of success are those that are fished the least which quite often means you need to do some walking.  On calm days the pseudos should be hatching in the slow water pools. 

Jim N. asked about the small trout in the UEB. The UEB has been a prolific producer of young trout for as long as I have been here. On two or three occasions, probably when the population of big trout was at a low point there was really good survival of a year class but that is the exception. Why? The UEB is a small stream (flow is about 25% of the WB) and it seldom over flows the reservoir (think alewives). It is also not nearly as fertile as the WB. There is little algae and the bug hatches don't compare (except for the green and brown drakes) with the hatches in the WB. As a result the trout grow slower and are smaller and thinner than their cousins in the WB, UNITL they get big enough to eat their kids. Make no mistake about it, there a good number of big browns that live in the UEB. They can be caught throughout the river during the Hendrickson hatch and below Shinhopple  during the drake hatch. The rest of the year you have to be fortunate to be on the river when there is a hatch big enough to interest the big guys. I don't believe the yearlings and two year olds leave the river, I think they are the year 'round food source for the big browns. 

D. Martin - You have been very observant about the mergansers. Yes, there are what I consider to be a normal number of them on both the BR and the UEB. They are there because there are still lots of young trout on the UEB and lots of shad fingerlings dropping back to the ocean in both the BE and BR. It's the WB where their numbers are significantly down. The Merganser moms get their broods together in large flocks and put on organized drives. Two or three years ago it was common to see flocks of 40+ birds swimming up and down the WB devouring yearling trout. 

Dennis - Was going to answer your access question before you had a stroke, but it's late and this page is fat too long already. Will get you next time.

5 comments

  • Dennis M: October 04, 2022

    BTW, I had a heart transplant, not a stroke.

  • Dennis M: October 04, 2022

    I’ll be looking for the answer.

  • Greg Tarris: October 03, 2022

    Thinking the part of this report outlining blind casting would be great to include in our TU newsletter. May I do so giving reference to you and the website?

  • Jason: October 03, 2022

    Agree with Dennis your book is a great reference

  • Dennis: October 02, 2022

    A119 great Blog page one of your best!!!!!!! No worries no stroke here.
    You should consider another book!!!!!!!!!

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